Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Jedakui teenager is well known in North America, even India.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: Global citizen source of inspiration chiseling of thinking is incredibly important JD Sach sonai sachdi vela vikare the policy level the solution language interpretation they come so did a religious political leader.
[00:00:59] Speaker A: Kildean I think Kai Lokande Manwichaldi especially Mahal deviche political narrative Banjanda Kuchizanulaki Kochizanulaki good social narratives Bandhani social narrative Koji narratives rooted Koji social narratives unfortunately intellectual viewpoint so intellectual aspect of Sikhi.
[00:02:06] Speaker B: Intellect word yes narratives the word source of inspiration Pameo warriors correct so o guru nanak Sabha clear wisdom so actual Sadi Jokuchita 555 years ago scholars palace right Jama Baba Deep Singh Paimani Singh Professor Puranasani cheap calendar Arthaki Bratandhenne Jona Chobi Sal the umar to be language interpretation they come so basically narratives the Wartha Harvey randiya disinformation the Asia disinformation which we asi apnea wisdom Kevigal Korea, Saudi Arabia so okay oda simple answer wisdom nal jodi intellect nal Jodi Jane different faculties neurologist study Kardan guru sav Garani ki toda ik realm on the lifeta discipline of thinking is incredibly important.
[00:04:54] Speaker A: Thinking inward process, outward process or is it a combination of all these things?
[00:05:04] Speaker B: Obviously it's a combination so a thinking develop Kadi Jandi Karana is the process modernism disinformation the Dor Chaldreya Ajijay Post democracy the conversation which KD wisdom laijabi.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: Community inspiring personalities those are the people that you look up to Jedi Jedi heroes, heroes and well deserved intellectual peluasi explore Karhinisaki o message Lukantak Ponchi reason Kj Kiyasi apune asiyatno singular lens rahi.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: Vekhandi adi ho chuke singular lens information which puri nidasani editorializing right so basically complete truth in the Aryana statement documented number one issue pametosi agree Karthi or disagree karthiya number one issue puri dhaniya ode which sadaki kanamanta galtaya Karnavali to see apnea Gurdwara political mic that is not the conversation right JD audience global South Kara excite Panjika western countries Karen actually intellectuals, academics policy level the solution.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Jeda Intellectual dialogue intellectual dialogue the space Kivaranjala intellectual, intellectual pushback agenda driven conversations Hogani Kyoki agenda fer Sabato Pella Sadhguru so JD intellectual space intellectual space.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: Liberal democracies which are illiberal democracies India Wanguya Iran Wangu Yajaniya totalitarian regimes complete rise which Ayahu Pandra salaan expectation even America Vargithide Karaisi representatives of the intellectual both strong word, strong word but Edward Saeed Naya jadaki global literature Middle east the peace, the discontent sware authority earlier Bush second term so Canada pawe intellectuals liberal democracies which religious leader will lakha Janna political leader amplify Karna religious leader be a thick problem key problem religious leaders are Kamhundasi ki Tordata, kama Sachs power no hono power they nal collaborators even emergency India but also Sarda Matlav Jada religious political nexus chaldasikh oh actually a kardasi but intellectual leaders Binikarai spiritual court or lord leadership intellectuals six student federation Conversation Kardisi society Gardisi Madonnaji Galbat group of which we to see descent exactly.
[00:12:44] Speaker A: Internal matpat exactly history Bariasi botsaria so kitana kitajirao message Hagaji Kijerakui teenager is well North America even India global citizen cultural values.
[00:13:37] Speaker B: Actually sekhara original nazarias Gurbani Vishna man we don't realize even JD Asi AjB 2023 passports in 1970 even India Pakistan although 47 so basically hoki gaya but what we call it othering kui religion, kui gendering, kui sexuality so it is not just related to nationalism. Nationalism is a big part of it. So apasare Karden we are playing role to it actual Galaya Kyunki Canada Bhatti India the Nal Canada context kalani even 1984 the Jade Shiruhoya even 84 which means senior Trudeau point being kala air India Farland let's be very upfront about it yeah kala sikh Khalistan movement but it is not as simple as that.
Indian agencies the key role India they ib they had raw, they had national investigation agencies they had in the Sarah policeman ki roll Raya Bana including overt covert Operation Jesk.
So we have to provide full context Jedasio's context propaganda war Manjandiya Kutch state propaganda coach separatist propaganda Kutch Canadian David propaganda at the end of it politics.
[00:15:58] Speaker A: Unfortunately gala Hogina Hosaka Samatha politics Kiti Hobe or division te thrive Ghadiri group no.
[00:16:28] Speaker B: Jedi spiritual the religious Bandana Obihika by the way Sui Sandarab Kyasi Gurnanak Sabna Kala Mirne Religion political heads spiritual or religious heads american politics indian politics, global politics, eastern orthodoxy.
Because what are they thriving on? Othering thrives on genocide, fear the guilt.
So os messaging they which JD contextuality jigaw japanese tanki donnotono lotanasakano Kolkani and actual line we are witnessing this.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: Kiyasi itehasikana gi.
[00:18:28] Speaker B: Which educational theories?
I have been worried about engineering, which we teach kita Janda graduate intersectionality graduating class. We see up in aerospace engineering. This other chairman class see I think Satay Jane see glassware tell me how the airplane flies.
Application user innovators Innovation World we capitalist market currently education followership actual educate Honaku what is the answer for you?
[00:19:44] Speaker A: Mmm.
I think it again the conversation heroes hageni the Jedi heroes heroes new heroes Banaki project Karaya.
[00:20:41] Speaker B: Puran Singh Manjita Jagjit aya context to Bahargal Karni to see a phrase conquest of the mind is the conquest of the world.
Jire sara nosi ayipanth ayipanth yogi and the best orders but actually heroes be amplify hora Ik particular other in thales taj bi gaya earlier likasina ode which gender finds gender neutral, right Sadi heroes Korne as a third paragraph h likta it's for time immemorial idea Berkarakh the institutions hmmati both important context.
[00:22:45] Speaker A: Please correct me I think Otom Mary Jo interpretation menu shayad apnajla viewpoint JD best samjong.
[00:23:11] Speaker B: Exactly right.
Sadh ko logical kiyadi vocabulary sade kohl ya inferiority complex don't know problem obviously jadiya nazi Germany elementhouse that to see Golami Rajonge Joe fer lokamichaya mental health to lake a political level thicker.
[00:24:12] Speaker A: Collective pride the kobadiya individually contribution Nahiheoke Mayos revived heritage collective Pride the Sabanjan Jite collective Pride hair collective shame collective pride. I think kafi is amplify.
[00:24:51] Speaker B: But please allow me 30 seconds.
[00:24:53] Speaker A: No, no, please, please.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: In the paradigm of Gurbani acceptable Niyadh corporate world the work life balance.
I'm proud of you. Pride the proud is the vanity which is part of the problem.
In the context of igdu jenu o problem created karajidi galkiti ik manoa jeda sano rabaya guru deria wisdom they level temilaya karda egocentric nasni banana pharaoh superiority nibanadi so pride is part of the problem. According to Gurvani calm growth no more Hankar Ankar is one of the biggest vanities we are carrying.
So you need that emotion. But emotion.
So it's the same potential collective pride. The collective shame is same part of the superiority and inferiority complexes, awards, recognition, let's be upfront about it. That's become part of the ego. It's a display.
Philanthropy has also become philanthropy, as we say these days. But wisdom, oneness, Omana, Sakaya, Gurbaniya complexes, they are part of the problem.
[00:27:36] Speaker A: Jenna.
